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	<title>Comments on: I Think Life Is Empty And Meaningless. Still Want My Advice On Life?</title>
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		<title>By: lifeisanillusiiiiiioonnnnnnn</title>
		<link>http://www.alexshalman.com/2008/01/21/i-think-life-is-empty-and-meaningless-still-want-my-advice-on-life/comment-page-1/#comment-177261</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a christian, and have no problem taking this concept,i dont believe god controlls our future, maybe when he wants to, but he gave us the freedom to what we want to do so it is easy for me to grasp of what your saying, and yes i do believe in it,Today in this world not many people stop and think, what the hell THIS is and what i mean by THIS is THIS universe mind or whatever is out there or here, life is an illusion, im sorry if you dont understand what i mean but think and look it up. there is better explanations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a christian, and have no problem taking this concept,i dont believe god controlls our future, maybe when he wants to, but he gave us the freedom to what we want to do so it is easy for me to grasp of what your saying, and yes i do believe in it,Today in this world not many people stop and think, what the hell THIS is and what i mean by THIS is THIS universe mind or whatever is out there or here, life is an illusion, im sorry if you dont understand what i mean but think and look it up. there is better explanations</p>
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		<title>By: zit</title>
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		<dc:creator>zit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: subhash</title>
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		<dc:creator>subhash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 11:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Landmark graduate since 12 years in Mumbai India and recently repeated it.
I do feel all those new definations (of words) are absolutley necessary to create a distinction and push us to act those 3 days to compeltion or action in araes where we looses power.
I am quite okay with the paradign Life is Empty and Menaningless and it is ----- because it give me a lot of energy to drop the old meanings I gave to my life after events , which meanings limted or gripped me. A whole new empowering and light space is created for me to act which other religious jargon and theologies with its language heavy words dont provide

i am extermely okay with this statement as it provides a very fresh look at my state</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Landmark graduate since 12 years in Mumbai India and recently repeated it.<br />
I do feel all those new definations (of words) are absolutley necessary to create a distinction and push us to act those 3 days to compeltion or action in araes where we looses power.<br />
I am quite okay with the paradign Life is Empty and Menaningless and it is &#8212;&#8211; because it give me a lot of energy to drop the old meanings I gave to my life after events , which meanings limted or gripped me. A whole new empowering and light space is created for me to act which other religious jargon and theologies with its language heavy words dont provide</p>
<p>i am extermely okay with this statement as it provides a very fresh look at my state</p>
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		<title>By: Dood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello - I have experienced the landmark forum and would like to share my opinion. While their is nothing fundamentally wrong with the (mostly Buddhist and jungian) ideas presented in the forum; in fact much of it is quite helpful to people, they are a fundamentalist organization. Fundamentalism is never to be tolerated in any form. The ideas presented are done so using a strict pre-defined set of definitions and terms that are inflexible, and inscrutable to the practical study of psychology and philosophy.  I belive that we have something for defining words, it&#039;s called a dictionary. Why does landmark change the definition of words ? Why is landmark not able to work within the framework of science?

One of many problems actually because they clearly use brain washing techniques during their seminars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8211; I have experienced the landmark forum and would like to share my opinion. While their is nothing fundamentally wrong with the (mostly Buddhist and jungian) ideas presented in the forum; in fact much of it is quite helpful to people, they are a fundamentalist organization. Fundamentalism is never to be tolerated in any form. The ideas presented are done so using a strict pre-defined set of definitions and terms that are inflexible, and inscrutable to the practical study of psychology and philosophy.  I belive that we have something for defining words, it&#8217;s called a dictionary. Why does landmark change the definition of words ? Why is landmark not able to work within the framework of science?</p>
<p>One of many problems actually because they clearly use brain washing techniques during their seminars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eteraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eteraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this poem on a blog and thought is went very well with what you are saying.   here is the source:
http://thedarleylama.wordpress.com/

Jun 25
Nothing
From nothing, I came.
From nothing, I am.
From nothing, I speak.
From nothing, I act.

Without history or reason,
belief or denial,
I am a clearing for all that is yearning to be.
I am a clearing for all possibility.

Thoughts will come and
thoughts can go.
But to nothing I return,
and from nothing I emerge.

For nothing is the space between
the Divine spark.
The rest between two notes.

Nothing asks for nothing
and gets nothing in return.
A pureness of reciprocity.

From nothing the wave rises
and to nothing the wave falls.
From calm to storm to calm again.

From nothing the cloud forms, lightning strikes and
rain falls.
Followed again by the clearing, static-free sky.

From nothing my purest heart speaks
and these words on this page came.

And though words fill up your head
and may move your heart and stir your soul,
these too, return like you,
to nothing.

So let us celebrate this nothingess.
So that this space and peace and rest
may arise
and dissolve,
from nothing.
To nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this poem on a blog and thought is went very well with what you are saying.   here is the source:<br />
<a href="http://thedarleylama.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thedarleylama.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>Jun 25<br />
Nothing<br />
From nothing, I came.<br />
From nothing, I am.<br />
From nothing, I speak.<br />
From nothing, I act.</p>
<p>Without history or reason,<br />
belief or denial,<br />
I am a clearing for all that is yearning to be.<br />
I am a clearing for all possibility.</p>
<p>Thoughts will come and<br />
thoughts can go.<br />
But to nothing I return,<br />
and from nothing I emerge.</p>
<p>For nothing is the space between<br />
the Divine spark.<br />
The rest between two notes.</p>
<p>Nothing asks for nothing<br />
and gets nothing in return.<br />
A pureness of reciprocity.</p>
<p>From nothing the wave rises<br />
and to nothing the wave falls.<br />
From calm to storm to calm again.</p>
<p>From nothing the cloud forms, lightning strikes and<br />
rain falls.<br />
Followed again by the clearing, static-free sky.</p>
<p>From nothing my purest heart speaks<br />
and these words on this page came.</p>
<p>And though words fill up your head<br />
and may move your heart and stir your soul,<br />
these too, return like you,<br />
to nothing.</p>
<p>So let us celebrate this nothingess.<br />
So that this space and peace and rest<br />
may arise<br />
and dissolve,<br />
from nothing.<br />
To nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eteraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eteraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found your blog and am very curious as to why someone people have to assign religion to everything they read.  There is no religion to this philosophy pure and simple.  Please keep religion out of this discussion.  Religion is a personal thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your blog and am very curious as to why someone people have to assign religion to everything they read.  There is no religion to this philosophy pure and simple.  Please keep religion out of this discussion.  Religion is a personal thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eteraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eteraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the landmark forum a few years ago and really liked it.  Recently something happened in my life where I remembered their mantra &quot;life is empty and meaningless&quot;    Anyway it helped a lot and then I wanted to see what&#039;s out there since I forgot a bunch of the LF things.  Your site came up and it hit the mark. Thank you.  Just reading it all over again made my day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the landmark forum a few years ago and really liked it.  Recently something happened in my life where I remembered their mantra &#8220;life is empty and meaningless&#8221;    Anyway it helped a lot and then I wanted to see what&#8217;s out there since I forgot a bunch of the LF things.  Your site came up and it hit the mark. Thank you.  Just reading it all over again made my day</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Keshi: Thanks for your comment, and I&#039;m glad you got value out of this post. Welcome to the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Keshi: Thanks for your comment, and I&#8217;m glad you got value out of this post. Welcome to the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Keshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely loved this article! I guess I found my &#039;meaning&#039; in this meaningless life...it was in this very article. :) Ur a superb philosopher! 

I always believed life was empty and meaningless..and that we humans give meaning to it. It&#039;s very true. Take a look at all the ephemeral joys we go through...they all die sooner or later...and then we find a new meaning to life and move on. Yes WE are the ones who find that meaning. If not, left alone life is empty.

Excellent post here!

Keshi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely loved this article! I guess I found my &#8216;meaning&#8217; in this meaningless life&#8230;it was in this very article. <img src='http://www.alexshalman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ur a superb philosopher! </p>
<p>I always believed life was empty and meaningless..and that we humans give meaning to it. It&#8217;s very true. Take a look at all the ephemeral joys we go through&#8230;they all die sooner or later&#8230;and then we find a new meaning to life and move on. Yes WE are the ones who find that meaning. If not, left alone life is empty.</p>
<p>Excellent post here!</p>
<p>Keshi.</p>
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		<title>By: ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If life is what we make it, that is WE as individuals, then it seems to me that life itself isn&#039;t objective. Its purely subjective. We&#039;re all just floating around in our life...some make it full, not meaningful. Meaningful  means it makes it purposeful. And everything dies. People, ideas, beliefs, anything. So how can they be meaningful? The other people don&#039;t fill their life, its empty. And if its empty it doesnt matter. So its true that its what you make it, but that means nothing to me, my life is empty because I don&#039;t see the point in filling it with &quot;meaningful&quot; things. But does that make it useless, futile? I think thats the question we should ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If life is what we make it, that is WE as individuals, then it seems to me that life itself isn&#8217;t objective. Its purely subjective. We&#8217;re all just floating around in our life&#8230;some make it full, not meaningful. Meaningful  means it makes it purposeful. And everything dies. People, ideas, beliefs, anything. So how can they be meaningful? The other people don&#8217;t fill their life, its empty. And if its empty it doesnt matter. So its true that its what you make it, but that means nothing to me, my life is empty because I don&#8217;t see the point in filling it with &#8220;meaningful&#8221; things. But does that make it useless, futile? I think thats the question we should ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Philosophy Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philosophy Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much! I appreciate it. I have a dead beat debate partner so you help is greatly appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much! I appreciate it. I have a dead beat debate partner so you help is greatly appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Philosophy Student - Life in itself is meaningless. There is no inherent meaning to it. Then we humans come along, us meaning making machines, and we say &quot;okay, life means this, this, or that&quot;. 

If you think of it this way, life is meaningless in itself, but we create a perceived meaning to it. Just like objects don&#039;t really have a color, they just happen to obsorb a certain wavelength of light, which is then interpretted a certain way by our eyes, which leads us to create &quot;that object is color X&quot;. 

Let me know how your debate goes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Philosophy Student &#8211; Life in itself is meaningless. There is no inherent meaning to it. Then we humans come along, us meaning making machines, and we say &#8220;okay, life means this, this, or that&#8221;. </p>
<p>If you think of it this way, life is meaningless in itself, but we create a perceived meaning to it. Just like objects don&#8217;t really have a color, they just happen to obsorb a certain wavelength of light, which is then interpretted a certain way by our eyes, which leads us to create &#8220;that object is color X&#8221;. </p>
<p>Let me know how your debate goes!</p>
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		<title>By: Philosophy Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philosophy Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was interesting. I am currently in a philosophy class and we&#039;re on the verge of discussing this concept. Unfortunatley we always start out the new unit with a debate. I happened to be chosen for this debate and i have to argue for life being meaningless. I wondering if you have any hints or anything. I&#039;m not sure where to begin really. 

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was interesting. I am currently in a philosophy class and we&#8217;re on the verge of discussing this concept. Unfortunatley we always start out the new unit with a debate. I happened to be chosen for this debate and i have to argue for life being meaningless. I wondering if you have any hints or anything. I&#8217;m not sure where to begin really. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend is really big into the Landmark Forum.  We met last year around this time and over several months I observed he had sort of a serene manner about him that I found very easy.  I said he was a real zen puppy.  Eventually he started telling me about how the Forum changed his life and how it enabled him to resurrect his dead friendship with his best friend and how it enabled him to tell his parents he was HIV positive.  All very nice and good.  He was graduating from the Advanced Course and invited me to come to graduation night.  I was moved by how euphoric and supportive everyone was of one another, but I was freaked out by how everyone seemed to applaud meaningless statements on cue, and by the hard sell at the end.  I was really just there to find out what this Landmark thing was that was obviously making my friend tick.

Eventually he convinced me to take it at a time when I had decided to really focus on changing my job situation.  He couldn&#039;t explain how the Forum would effect that, but he tought the course would be very beneficial for me.

As the weeks before my Forum became days, I started to ask myself, &quot;What did I sign up for?&quot;  I had no idea what this course was about other than some clever statements made in the intro session, which I had integrated into my life years ago. And yet everyone talked about the course as if it was an earth shattering experience.

Finally, a day or two before the course began, I said to my friend, &quot;Why am I paying $550, taking a day off of work, and devoting my first free weekend in two years to this thing?  What is it I&#039;m buying?  What is this third day epiphany or excercise?&quot;  My friend didn&#039;t want to tell me.  He thought it would ruin the surprise.  I told him I really didn&#039;t care and in fact I insisted. I was tired of all the hocus pocus mystery about this thing.  I got that it was experiential.  But I also got that all signs pointed toward it giving me an experience that I&#039;d already had at other times in my life.  So he let the cat out of the bag.  The whole point of the Forum is that life is empty and meaningless.  

To which I said, yeah, and?  Tell me something I don&#039;t know.   This is not news to me.  I&#039;ve had truly existential experiences in my life that have put that lesson into sharp relief.  But my friend strongly urged me to go. 

So I went to day one.  After about eight hours I finally said, &quot;Why aren&#039;t these people getting it?  I can&#039;t sit around for three days waiting for people to get it.  They all want to go up to the microphone, have the instructor analyze their lives, and come out whole.  Don&#039;t they realize they can just sit in their chair and do that themselves?  What do they think this instructor is going to tell them other than, &quot;It&#039;s up to you whether you want to be upset about your situation?&quot;  He doesn&#039;t know them.  What more could he tell them? 

So I decided the only reason I was staying at that point was to make my friend happy and to avoid being rude.  Since neither of those was a good reason for being there, I left.

My friend remained.  She was skeptical like me, but by day three, she seemed like she&#039;d drank the kool-aid.  I insisted she tell me what the critical day three excercise was, and she told me it was that the instructor told everyone life was empty and meaningless.  Apparently being locked up in a room for three days in uncomfortable chairs hearing the problems of the world echo in your head makes that statement earth shattering.  

I&#039;m really dying to know what the state of mind in the room is before that moment, because I don&#039;t get why any of the Forum&#039;s lessons are earth shattering or paradigm shifting.  What has happened to these people in the previous two and a half days to not only make that statement change their entire outlook on life, but to start believing that only by doing the Forum can one have that experience?  It sounds like a carny trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend is really big into the Landmark Forum.  We met last year around this time and over several months I observed he had sort of a serene manner about him that I found very easy.  I said he was a real zen puppy.  Eventually he started telling me about how the Forum changed his life and how it enabled him to resurrect his dead friendship with his best friend and how it enabled him to tell his parents he was HIV positive.  All very nice and good.  He was graduating from the Advanced Course and invited me to come to graduation night.  I was moved by how euphoric and supportive everyone was of one another, but I was freaked out by how everyone seemed to applaud meaningless statements on cue, and by the hard sell at the end.  I was really just there to find out what this Landmark thing was that was obviously making my friend tick.</p>
<p>Eventually he convinced me to take it at a time when I had decided to really focus on changing my job situation.  He couldn&#8217;t explain how the Forum would effect that, but he tought the course would be very beneficial for me.</p>
<p>As the weeks before my Forum became days, I started to ask myself, &#8220;What did I sign up for?&#8221;  I had no idea what this course was about other than some clever statements made in the intro session, which I had integrated into my life years ago. And yet everyone talked about the course as if it was an earth shattering experience.</p>
<p>Finally, a day or two before the course began, I said to my friend, &#8220;Why am I paying $550, taking a day off of work, and devoting my first free weekend in two years to this thing?  What is it I&#8217;m buying?  What is this third day epiphany or excercise?&#8221;  My friend didn&#8217;t want to tell me.  He thought it would ruin the surprise.  I told him I really didn&#8217;t care and in fact I insisted. I was tired of all the hocus pocus mystery about this thing.  I got that it was experiential.  But I also got that all signs pointed toward it giving me an experience that I&#8217;d already had at other times in my life.  So he let the cat out of the bag.  The whole point of the Forum is that life is empty and meaningless.  </p>
<p>To which I said, yeah, and?  Tell me something I don&#8217;t know.   This is not news to me.  I&#8217;ve had truly existential experiences in my life that have put that lesson into sharp relief.  But my friend strongly urged me to go. </p>
<p>So I went to day one.  After about eight hours I finally said, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t these people getting it?  I can&#8217;t sit around for three days waiting for people to get it.  They all want to go up to the microphone, have the instructor analyze their lives, and come out whole.  Don&#8217;t they realize they can just sit in their chair and do that themselves?  What do they think this instructor is going to tell them other than, &#8220;It&#8217;s up to you whether you want to be upset about your situation?&#8221;  He doesn&#8217;t know them.  What more could he tell them? </p>
<p>So I decided the only reason I was staying at that point was to make my friend happy and to avoid being rude.  Since neither of those was a good reason for being there, I left.</p>
<p>My friend remained.  She was skeptical like me, but by day three, she seemed like she&#8217;d drank the kool-aid.  I insisted she tell me what the critical day three excercise was, and she told me it was that the instructor told everyone life was empty and meaningless.  Apparently being locked up in a room for three days in uncomfortable chairs hearing the problems of the world echo in your head makes that statement earth shattering.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really dying to know what the state of mind in the room is before that moment, because I don&#8217;t get why any of the Forum&#8217;s lessons are earth shattering or paradigm shifting.  What has happened to these people in the previous two and a half days to not only make that statement change their entire outlook on life, but to start believing that only by doing the Forum can one have that experience?  It sounds like a carny trick.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Florad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this post while googling &quot;I Think Life Is Empty&quot;. We are in the same boat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this post while googling &#8220;I Think Life Is Empty&#8221;. We are in the same boat!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think one of the biggest life hacks is understanding that &#8216;Life is empty and meaningless and it&#8217;s empty and meaningless that life is empty and meaningless&#8217; I write more about this here: I Think Life Is Empty And Meaningless. Still Want My Advice On Life? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I think one of the biggest life hacks is understanding that &#8216;Life is empty and meaningless and it&#8217;s empty and meaningless that life is empty and meaningless&#8217; I write more about this here: I Think Life Is Empty And Meaningless. Still Want My Advice On Life? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Dcrad.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Dcrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post, this has given me a whole new way of trying to look at things. I cant remember the exact metamodel, but it strikes me as something in the NLP train of thought.  We cant always control the external things that happen in our lives, but we can always control how we react to those things.

Life really is empty and meaningless, until you decide what you want to fill it up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post, this has given me a whole new way of trying to look at things. I cant remember the exact metamodel, but it strikes me as something in the NLP train of thought.  We cant always control the external things that happen in our lives, but we can always control how we react to those things.</p>
<p>Life really is empty and meaningless, until you decide what you want to fill it up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this article before.  Interesting isn&#039;t it. 
You have good info on your site.  Keep me posted of new info. 
Thanks,
Cindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this article before.  Interesting isn&#8217;t it.<br />
You have good info on your site.  Keep me posted of new info.<br />
Thanks,<br />
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		<title>By: The Landmark Forum &#124; Alex Shalman . com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Landmark Forum &#124; Alex Shalman . com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alex Shalman: Debbi, Thanks for stopping by. At the exact right time, because I&#8217;m doing the forum again... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alex Shalman: Debbi, Thanks for stopping by. At the exact right time, because I&#8217;m doing the forum again&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbi,

Thanks for stopping by. At the exact right time, because I&#039;m doing the forum again tomorrow morning, and this just reminded me what a fun adventure the forum really is. I&#039;m glad you got &quot;&lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt;&quot; out of this. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbi,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by. At the exact right time, because I&#8217;m doing the forum again tomorrow morning, and this just reminded me what a fun adventure the forum really is. I&#8217;m glad you got &#8220;<em>nothing</em>&#8221; out of this. <img src='http://www.alexshalman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Debbi, Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbi, Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alex!
Just checking out your blog tonight, and came across this post.  It brought back great memories of the biggest AHA moment of my 3 days in the Landmark Forum.  We spent hours on this one.  I&#039;m not sure if the one girl in our group was a plant, or if she really couldn&#039;t grasp it - but....our moderator delivered this nugget of wisdom, and she completely came unglued.

&quot;LIFE IS NOT EMPTY AND MEANINGLESS!!!&quot; She exclaimed.  &quot;Right&quot;, said the moderator.  &quot;Life is NOT empty and meaningless.  BUT Life is empty and meaningless AND it&#039;s empty and meaningless that it&#039;s empty and meaningless.&quot;  Wow, she couldn&#039;t let this nugget go for 3 days.  On day 3, she finally &quot;got it&quot;, and brought in t-shirts for all the moderators to wear, and it was such a funny moment.  The important thing is - And this is what she finally got - That this is not religious, and has nothing to do with G-d.  It&#039;s just that we all give our own meaning to things, and that meaning doesn&#039;t automatically come along attached to the moment, but we assign our own meaning, to something that in its original form, had no meaning at all.  So - everything we get is empty and meaningless - UNTIL we give it it&#039;s meaning and purpose.  OR until we give ourselves meaning and purpose.  I haven&#039;t had the opportunity to chew on this one lately, and the funny thing is, you reminded me of it at just the right time.

Today, I had a project I&#039;d put my heart and soul into for four months fall apart at the very last moment.  In that instant, it meant I had failed.  It meant that the world was against me.  It meant so many things - and now, after reading your blog, I just realized it didn&#039;t mean any of those things at all.  It meant nothing.  It happened.  Things happen.  Some things work, some don&#039;t.  This didn&#039;t.  It was empty and meaningless, until I gave it meaning.  Now, it just means I tried my best.  And will continue to do so, regardless of the outcome.
thanks - I really needed that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alex!<br />
Just checking out your blog tonight, and came across this post.  It brought back great memories of the biggest AHA moment of my 3 days in the Landmark Forum.  We spent hours on this one.  I&#8217;m not sure if the one girl in our group was a plant, or if she really couldn&#8217;t grasp it &#8211; but&#8230;.our moderator delivered this nugget of wisdom, and she completely came unglued.</p>
<p>&#8220;LIFE IS NOT EMPTY AND MEANINGLESS!!!&#8221; She exclaimed.  &#8220;Right&#8221;, said the moderator.  &#8220;Life is NOT empty and meaningless.  BUT Life is empty and meaningless AND it&#8217;s empty and meaningless that it&#8217;s empty and meaningless.&#8221;  Wow, she couldn&#8217;t let this nugget go for 3 days.  On day 3, she finally &#8220;got it&#8221;, and brought in t-shirts for all the moderators to wear, and it was such a funny moment.  The important thing is &#8211; And this is what she finally got &#8211; That this is not religious, and has nothing to do with G-d.  It&#8217;s just that we all give our own meaning to things, and that meaning doesn&#8217;t automatically come along attached to the moment, but we assign our own meaning, to something that in its original form, had no meaning at all.  So &#8211; everything we get is empty and meaningless &#8211; UNTIL we give it it&#8217;s meaning and purpose.  OR until we give ourselves meaning and purpose.  I haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to chew on this one lately, and the funny thing is, you reminded me of it at just the right time.</p>
<p>Today, I had a project I&#8217;d put my heart and soul into for four months fall apart at the very last moment.  In that instant, it meant I had failed.  It meant that the world was against me.  It meant so many things &#8211; and now, after reading your blog, I just realized it didn&#8217;t mean any of those things at all.  It meant nothing.  It happened.  Things happen.  Some things work, some don&#8217;t.  This didn&#8217;t.  It was empty and meaningless, until I gave it meaning.  Now, it just means I tried my best.  And will continue to do so, regardless of the outcome.<br />
thanks &#8211; I really needed that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I still have yet to open it...lol...these days the only music I ever listen to is when I am driving. I don&#039;t think my car is equipped to play MP3&#039;s just yet.
Lol...too funny...I just opened it...got to love it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I still have yet to open it&#8230;lol&#8230;these days the only music I ever listen to is when I am driving. I don&#8217;t think my car is equipped to play MP3&#8242;s just yet.<br />
Lol&#8230;too funny&#8230;I just opened it&#8230;got to love it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you won it for you... You like how I sneakily had them engrave it? =)</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the zero tolerance policy. I think its a must to to weed out negativity.  
Hey Alex, Still holding onto that Ipod...I really need to do a contest.</description>
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Hey Alex, Still holding onto that Ipod&#8230;I really need to do a contest.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Cheok &#124; A Long Long Road</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Cheok &#124; A Long Long Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting philosophy Alex, 

it&#039;s like the story where a general burnt his ships so that his soldiers can fight all out.

I like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting philosophy Alex, </p>
<p>it&#8217;s like the story where a general burnt his ships so that his soldiers can fight all out.</p>
<p>I like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola Fayemi / Real World Spiritual and Personal Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola Fayemi / Real World Spiritual and Personal Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, although I would have to say that life is meaning-less until we apply a meaning. But even that is because of the meaning I have attached to the word meaningless. 

In love, light and abundance x x x 

Lola Fayemi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, although I would have to say that life is meaning-less until we apply a meaning. But even that is because of the meaning I have attached to the word meaningless. </p>
<p>In love, light and abundance x x x </p>
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		<title>By: Albert &#124; UrbanMonk.Net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert &#124; UrbanMonk.Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, brilliant! Perhaps being meaningless is to say that everything is okay, as it should be, right now. And so it is! Seems like you&#039;re delving in non-duality, mate, am I right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, brilliant! Perhaps being meaningless is to say that everything is okay, as it should be, right now. And so it is! Seems like you&#8217;re delving in non-duality, mate, am I right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Shalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Shalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words guys, and I&#039;m glad you are enjoying the blog. 

Don&#039;t worry, more is on the way, so come back soon. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind words guys, and I&#8217;m glad you are enjoying the blog. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, more is on the way, so come back soon. =)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah... finally someone blogs about a theory I&#039;ve held for many years.  Thanks for the article!

I think the abovementioned problems that Christians might have with this paradigm is that they believe that God has a plan for everything, no matter what we think.  In essence- the idea that *we* decide the meaning of our life is contrary to their belief that *God* decides.  So it would be hard for them to adopt this &#039;me-based&#039; theory, because they are hung on a &#039;God-based&#039; theory.

Good stuff.  Keep up the posts!

- Jaden
www.undergroundunrest.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230; finally someone blogs about a theory I&#8217;ve held for many years.  Thanks for the article!</p>
<p>I think the abovementioned problems that Christians might have with this paradigm is that they believe that God has a plan for everything, no matter what we think.  In essence- the idea that *we* decide the meaning of our life is contrary to their belief that *God* decides.  So it would be hard for them to adopt this &#8216;me-based&#8217; theory, because they are hung on a &#8216;God-based&#8217; theory.</p>
<p>Good stuff.  Keep up the posts!</p>
<p>- Jaden<br />
<a href="http://www.undergroundunrest.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.undergroundunrest.com/blog</a></p>
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